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	<description>Examining international development, by Alanna Shaikh</description>
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		<title>By: Towards a Socially Conscientiousness Lifestyle Design Movement &#124; Beyond Growth</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-12826</link>
		<dc:creator>Towards a Socially Conscientiousness Lifestyle Design Movement &#124; Beyond Growth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] community could have a large collective impact. One idea that intrigues me is the idea of &#8220;low hanging fruit&#8220;: problems are relatively small compared to big systemic issues but, are much easier to solve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] community could have a large collective impact. One idea that intrigues me is the idea of &#8220;low hanging fruit&#8220;: problems are relatively small compared to big systemic issues but, are much easier to solve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 04:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pragzz- thanks for the hippo roller and playpump info. That&#039;s really useful. And it points to the larger question of how a low hanging fruit effort would vet ideas for effectieness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pragzz- thanks for the hippo roller and playpump info. That&#8217;s really useful. And it points to the larger question of how a low hanging fruit effort would vet ideas for effectieness.</p>
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		<title>By: pragzz</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>pragzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a huge fan of either the hippodrum or the playpump, but you have a point. 

(If you are wondering why...the hippodrum costs $90 which is ridiculous for a plastic garbage can with a stick through it; not to mention that it doesn&#039;t work half the time because most of the paths people walk on are not flat, and a less than full drum is very uncomfortable to roll around; the playpump desperately needs to update their model...again costs simply too much to install and the design is horribly outdated).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a huge fan of either the hippodrum or the playpump, but you have a point. </p>
<p>(If you are wondering why&#8230;the hippodrum costs $90 which is ridiculous for a plastic garbage can with a stick through it; not to mention that it doesn&#8217;t work half the time because most of the paths people walk on are not flat, and a less than full drum is very uncomfortable to roll around; the playpump desperately needs to update their model&#8230;again costs simply too much to install and the design is horribly outdated).</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quick response!

I take your point with regard to business. You&#039;re right that ideas are tested, results are measured, and so on. I guess that in business sometimes these things are more easily measurable: sales, revenue, profits, etc. Your idea to try to find good measurements for the LHF venture is really good.

My point about business was maybe more low-level, however. A lot of work goes in to test over-arching strategies and big product launches, but successful organisations are those that allow people at all levels to try to make positive contributions where they see a need. Actually, your idea is just that, and so I&#039;m a supporter, with the caveat that people need to be able to act quickly and flexibly, and so everything needs to be done to ensure that that&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick response!</p>
<p>I take your point with regard to business. You&#8217;re right that ideas are tested, results are measured, and so on. I guess that in business sometimes these things are more easily measurable: sales, revenue, profits, etc. Your idea to try to find good measurements for the LHF venture is really good.</p>
<p>My point about business was maybe more low-level, however. A lot of work goes in to test over-arching strategies and big product launches, but successful organisations are those that allow people at all levels to try to make positive contributions where they see a need. Actually, your idea is just that, and so I&#8217;m a supporter, with the caveat that people need to be able to act quickly and flexibly, and so everything needs to be done to ensure that that&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip,

1. In my experience, donor priorities cover big overarching goals like reducing poverty, improving access to health care, or improving the environment for microfinance. Fitting one small solution into that kind of comprehensive effort is difficult.

2. That is a great question, and not one I have an easy answer to. In some cases, a solution has been identified by a local community but they lack the resources to implement. For example, farmers everywhere will tell you they need enclosed irrigation.

3. I don&#039;t think that documentation or choosing a control community would slow down implementation. Choosing a control could be done using existing demographic and geographic data. Documentation doesn&#039;t need to be arduous, either. Plenty of rapid assessment tools exist. Well-chosen evaluation does not impede implementation, it improves it.

I disagree with the premise of your  business example. Business do market assessments before they introduce new products or services, and they have metrics to make sure that their product/service is actually being purchased. No one would run a business with a way of knowing whether or not they were making money, growing, capturing new customers and so on. That&#039;s exactly what monitoring and evaluation is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip,</p>
<p>1. In my experience, donor priorities cover big overarching goals like reducing poverty, improving access to health care, or improving the environment for microfinance. Fitting one small solution into that kind of comprehensive effort is difficult.</p>
<p>2. That is a great question, and not one I have an easy answer to. In some cases, a solution has been identified by a local community but they lack the resources to implement. For example, farmers everywhere will tell you they need enclosed irrigation.</p>
<p>3. I don&#8217;t think that documentation or choosing a control community would slow down implementation. Choosing a control could be done using existing demographic and geographic data. Documentation doesn&#8217;t need to be arduous, either. Plenty of rapid assessment tools exist. Well-chosen evaluation does not impede implementation, it improves it.</p>
<p>I disagree with the premise of your  business example. Business do market assessments before they introduce new products or services, and they have metrics to make sure that their product/service is actually being purchased. No one would run a business with a way of knowing whether or not they were making money, growing, capturing new customers and so on. That&#8217;s exactly what monitoring and evaluation is.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree entirely that we should target low-hanging fruit. I guess a few questions come to mind:

1. Why are these not part of donor priorities in the first place? They really should be.

2. A bit more sceptical, but the obvious (Easterly-inspired?) question is, if what people needed was rolling water containers wouldn&#039;t they have invented them a long time ago? And if they are so cheap, why aren&#039;t people willing to pay for them? I guess this question is quite specific, but can be applied more broadly...why are concepts we think of as quick wins not thought of as such by poor people? Or maybe I&#039;m wrong, and they are, but there is some other problem...

3. I think that documenting &quot;everything to pieces&quot; and using a &quot;paired control community&quot; risks the viability of the idea. Its merit is in being quick and flexible. Covering it with so many other things risks slowing it down. As an example, in business (and I realise I may be tiring you with comparisons to the business world...) you simply wouldn&#039;t see that kind of approach. You would come up with an idea, run it by a few people, try it out, and then either run with it or bin it. There would be some evaluation, of course, but nothing to seriously impede the idea being implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entirely that we should target low-hanging fruit. I guess a few questions come to mind:</p>
<p>1. Why are these not part of donor priorities in the first place? They really should be.</p>
<p>2. A bit more sceptical, but the obvious (Easterly-inspired?) question is, if what people needed was rolling water containers wouldn&#8217;t they have invented them a long time ago? And if they are so cheap, why aren&#8217;t people willing to pay for them? I guess this question is quite specific, but can be applied more broadly&#8230;why are concepts we think of as quick wins not thought of as such by poor people? Or maybe I&#8217;m wrong, and they are, but there is some other problem&#8230;</p>
<p>3. I think that documenting &#8220;everything to pieces&#8221; and using a &#8220;paired control community&#8221; risks the viability of the idea. Its merit is in being quick and flexible. Covering it with so many other things risks slowing it down. As an example, in business (and I realise I may be tiring you with comparisons to the business world&#8230;) you simply wouldn&#8217;t see that kind of approach. You would come up with an idea, run it by a few people, try it out, and then either run with it or bin it. There would be some evaluation, of course, but nothing to seriously impede the idea being implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Low Hanging Fruit &#124; Renegade Futurist</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>Low Hanging Fruit &#124; Renegade Futurist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blood and Milk: Low Hanging Fruit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinay - Your point on choosing the right fruit is very true. And I admit, I&#039;m fascinated by the playpump because it&#039;s so charming. I don&#039;t have the background to evaluate efficiency. 

Chris - I keep forgetting open license isn&#039;t an automatic idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinay &#8211; Your point on choosing the right fruit is very true. And I admit, I&#8217;m fascinated by the playpump because it&#8217;s so charming. I don&#8217;t have the background to evaluate efficiency. </p>
<p>Chris &#8211; I keep forgetting open license isn&#8217;t an automatic idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vinay Gupta</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinay Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s gotta be the right low hanging fruit. ORS is often made with contaminated water - the water from making dhal is traditionally used for this purpose in some areas, and that comes sterile. The playpump is ok but have you seen rope pumps?

I&#039;m all about low hanging fruit, and documenting everything to the point where replication is possible, but I _really_ think we have to be very, very precise in selecting the technologies to scale.

But apart from those quibbles, with it 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s gotta be the right low hanging fruit. ORS is often made with contaminated water &#8211; the water from making dhal is traditionally used for this purpose in some areas, and that comes sterile. The playpump is ok but have you seen rope pumps?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all about low hanging fruit, and documenting everything to the point where replication is possible, but I _really_ think we have to be very, very precise in selecting the technologies to scale.</p>
<p>But apart from those quibbles, with it 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Watkins</title>
		<link>http://bloodandmilk.org/?p=1284&#038;cpage=1#comment-799</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it. Also love the &quot;document everything to pieces, so it would also serve as research on what works&quot; - under an open license of course. (I know you&#039;re aware of open licenses, but many aren&#039;t).

I&#039;d be inclined to choose some different technologies - e.g. treadle pumps are probably more cost effective than play pumps. But we can let the LHF people and the target communities decide the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it. Also love the &#8220;document everything to pieces, so it would also serve as research on what works&#8221; &#8211; under an open license of course. (I know you&#8217;re aware of open licenses, but many aren&#8217;t).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be inclined to choose some different technologies &#8211; e.g. treadle pumps are probably more cost effective than play pumps. But we can let the LHF people and the target communities decide the details.</p>
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